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« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2010, 02:42:58 AM »
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Hello Doug!

“The whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape, (Mountain chains K.M.) extending in one direction three thousand stadia, but across the centre inland it (Mountain chains K.M.) was two thousand stadia. This part of the island looked towards the south, and was sheltered from the north."
Translation and description had been made by Egyptian priest. It means that we have to use the Egyptian (Atlantian) measure (1 stadia = 205m). Thus, we can calculate approximately length of the Atlantis mountain chains (615km and 410km).

The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist…“
White arc is surrounded mountains- the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape. The map exactly shows the description.

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« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2010, 10:53:09 AM »
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Hello Kakha,

“The whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape, (Mountain chains K.M. Huh?) extending in one direction three thousand stadia, but across the centre inland it (Mountain chains K.M. Huh?) was two thousand stadia. This part of the island looked towards the south, and was sheltered from the north."
Translation and description had been made by Egyptian priest. It means that we have to use the Egyptian (Atlantian) measure (1 stadia = 205m). Thus, we can calculate approximately length of the Atlantis mountain chains (615km and 410km).

The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist…“
White arc is surrounded mountains- the city was [the] level plain Huh?, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape. The map exactly shows the description.

It seems a bit of a stretch applying the measurements to mountains and limiting the plain to the circular city and it is also extremely problematic. Here's the continuation of the passage you quoted which provides proper context:

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I will now describe the plain, as it was fashioned by nature and by the labours of many generations of kings through long ages. It was for the most part rectangular and oblong, and where falling out of the straight line followed the circular ditch. The depth, and width, and length of this ditch were incredible, and gave the impression that a work of such extent, in addition to so many others, could never have been artificial. Nevertheless I must say what I was told. It was excavated to the depth of a hundred feet, and it breadth was a stadium everywhere; it was carried round the whole of the plain, and was 10,000 stadia in length."

If we drop your insertion of "mountain chains" from your quoted text, it's clear that Plato is describing an oblong or rectangular plain 2,000 x 3,000 stadia in size. This squares perfectly (pardon the pun  Smiley) with the remainder of the passage which I have added above. A 2,000 x 3,000 stadia rectangular plain would have a perimeter of 10,000 stadia.

You have chosen to apply the 2,000 and 3,000 stadia to a set of mountain chains and the smooth and even plain you have limited to the city. Assuming as you say, that the city is the plain, the circumference of the mountains surrounding the city—designated by a white ring on your attached image—is only about 2,000 stadia with whatever plain within having a fraction of that circumference. Yet the passage clearly states that the ditch "was carried around the whole of the plain, and was 10,000 stadia in length."

Your translation also creates another problem:

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It received the streams which came down from the mountains, and winding round the plain and meeting at the city, was there let off into the sea."

According to your interpretation, this passage would be interpreted to say that the streams wound round the city ("the city was the level plain") and met at the city, but there is no need for this confusing interpretation if we accept the text as it is and that the plain was a separate geographical feature measuring 2,000 x 3,000 stadia defined by a 10,000 stadia stream flowing around it and meeting at a separate circular feature, the city.

In fact Plato's account could hardly be clearer in distinguishing the city from the plain when it states that Poseidon built the circular city "at a distance of about 50 stadia" from the rectangular plain:

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Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side Poseidon breaking the ground, enclosed the hill, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre."

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« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2010, 10:23:55 AM »
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Thus… No we can see mountain in the centre of the circular mountains on the sonar image that is place of the Atlantis city (-25; -37.4). The country, kingdom of the Atlantis city had been suraunded by level plane and the circular mountains.
“The whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country (kingdom of the Atlantis city K.M) immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by (circular mountains. K.M.) mountains which descended towards the sea”
Same image indicates the Google map between the Azores two islands, between Santa Maria and Sao Miguel.

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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2010, 05:33:41 AM »
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Hello my Friend!

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