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« on: April 27, 2009, 11:25:12 AM »
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Will there be a chapter in the book describing the Piri Ri'is map? I have read some interesting articles equating it to fairly simple, yet non-standard, depiction of the southern coast of South America rather than Antarctica. This might lend some evidence to an Atlantis-South America connection if indeed map data did exist for South America prior to the 1500's...
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 12:32:34 PM »
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Will there be a chapter in the book describing the Piri Ri'is map? I have read some interesting articles equating it to fairly simple, yet non-standard, depiction of the southern coast of South America rather than Antarctica. This might lend some evidence to an Atlantis-South America connection if indeed map data did exist for South America prior to the 1500's...


Welcome schatenjager!

I will be addressing the Piri Reis map in the first chapter. It’s the map that initiated the rest of my work here.

However the map is dated to 1513, so it does not predate known exploration of the South American continent. The rendering of Rio de la Plata does suggest that it was explored prior to 1516, the date Juan Díaz de Solís is credited for its discovery.

I do agree with you that the map does not depict Antarctica. In fact the 1519 Lopo Homem Map created only 6 years later shares almost an identical depiction of the Rio de la Plata region and likely represents how the complete Piri Reis Map would have appeared as these cartographers apparently imagined the existence of an enclosed sea below Africa and Asia.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 12:52:50 PM »
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You are absolutely right in that the map itself does not predate the discovery of South America, of course. I was referring to the conjecture that information within the map was supposedly garnered from other sources which, accoring to Piri Ri'is may have been "ancient sailors".

I will look forward to your book with great interest! I've already read through the 4 chapters you posted on line and i'm very much looking forward to reading the rest!

Are there any theories as to who the civilization that would have inhabited the South American continent have been?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 04:04:32 PM »
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Schatenjager,

I might have to go back and review that map again. It has been awhile. I do recall being impressed by one of the inscriptions that acknowledges the great disparity between hours of night and day at a far southern point.

Thanks for the kind words regarding the current chapters. I hope to have more posted soon.

As for the ancient South American civilization, I will be addressing that, but there shouldn’t be too many new surprises here, just speculation about the usual suspects like the 'sea peoples' with some minor new insights, the Phoenicians and the high probability that we may never know their true origins.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 01:35:55 PM »
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I remember reading in the Kolbrin Bible an account by Phoenicians and Greeks of having settled in a land full of swamps and thick forest, and the problems they had with the "local barbarians".  Eventually the problems got to be so severe that they determined to repair their ships and leave, sailing for a long time, and then landing in modern day Britain.  I had a hard time initially with the account because I couldn't figure out what part of Europe would have been so swampy and hot and thickly forested as they describe, but then South America would be a perfect fit.

There are other Phoenician landings in South America cited by Robert Baird in his "Diverse Druids", along with a claim that Egyptian mummies have been found with traces of cocaine in their system.

"By a route obscure and lonely, Haunted by ill angels only,
Where an Eidolon, named Night, On a black throne reigns upright,
I have reached these lands but newly From an ultimate dim Thule —
From a wild weird clime, that lieth, sublime, Out of Space — out of Time." --Edgar Allen Poe
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